tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post2594689199235653768..comments2024-03-22T14:44:41.519+00:00Comments on Checking On My Sausages: Auschwitz (Uwe Boll) ReviewUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-49377696470387999702023-08-16T00:32:57.289+01:002023-08-16T00:32:57.289+01:00The true horror of the Holocaust is available to a...The true horror of the Holocaust is available to anyone who takes the time and the effort to access it, in the form of Wilhelm Brasse's photographs of Auschwitz inmates and Primo Levi's recollections in his books. Fictional versions become Chinese whispers that distort the truth. The ruling class and governments would rather that we didn't learn the truth about the Holocaust because another one would benefit them. There is much to learn and to unlearn. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-5588855037690000932020-09-19T21:20:19.233+01:002020-09-19T21:20:19.233+01:00Uwe Boll tried to warn humanity of this atrocity a...Uwe Boll tried to warn humanity of this atrocity and prevent it´s repetition.<br />How shameful is to find so many negationists, and so many ignorants that all they know about the jewish holocaust is "The Schindler list".<br />The holocaust cannot be denied or distorted because we will be condemned to repeat it.<br />It happened to the jews, to the armenians, to the gipsies, to the black people and many others.<br />Tomorrow it will be happening to white supremacies.harrycorennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08487301484666514795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-81117447831721563952017-08-25T21:40:31.931+01:002017-08-25T21:40:31.931+01:00Its just another hate propaganda movie , it´s pure...Its just another hate propaganda movie , it´s pure fiction but they call it docu-drama... This is the real evil Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16709603686471838486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-55265058538726468842016-05-11T14:12:48.820+01:002016-05-11T14:12:48.820+01:00Seriously?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticis...Seriously? <br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denialAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-20997813119414581052015-11-17T23:05:05.662+00:002015-11-17T23:05:05.662+00:00Sorry - but now enough evidence has been uncovered...Sorry - but now enough evidence has been uncovered that there was no homicidal gas chamber in any of the German controlled camps. None. As early as 1985 it has been well established that principle witness testimonies from people like Rudolf Vrba has ben hearsay and "poetic license". Also chemical examination of the so called "gas chamber" proved that there were no mass gassing of human beings in Auschwitz. Seriously folks, enough is enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-87874025748833476712013-12-07T14:27:21.218+00:002013-12-07T14:27:21.218+00:00i think that the film is as close to holocaust den...i think that the film is as close to holocaust denial as he can legally get. the door he stands in front of while the jews are being gassed doesn't exist. thats the kind of air tight steel door you'd think would exist if a chamber needed to be air tight and hold up against the force off so many dying people trying to escape, but thats a totally imaginary door in the movie. there is no real life equivalent. <br /><br />also, i thought it was hilarious when i saw on some SS vehicle the numbers "666." obviously his way of telling us that this Evil horror story is just that... a story... a myth about "Evil" that has no particular real world existence. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-84210385129405610422012-09-17T17:37:31.465+01:002012-09-17T17:37:31.465+01:00Atheologian,
Thank you again for the recommendati...Atheologian,<br /><br />Thank you again for the recommendation. I will try to see it.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036103762441216161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-33374913276656350922012-09-12T23:46:33.240+01:002012-09-12T23:46:33.240+01:00Stephen,
I recommend 'Conspiracy': it is ...Stephen,<br /><br />I recommend 'Conspiracy': it is chilling, particularly since the script is taken directly from the minutes of the Wannsee conference - a perfect piece of Nazi legalism and 'political correctness'.<br /><br />I recommend it to anyone who believes in 'human resources' rather than 'personnel'.Atheologiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-38792394336566879102012-09-12T17:07:35.837+01:002012-09-12T17:07:35.837+01:00Atheologian,
I haven't seen Conspiracy. I do ...Atheologian,<br /><br />I haven't seen <i>Conspiracy</i>. I do remember it when it was first aired. <br /><br /><i>Schindler's List</i>, even though it doesn't particularly offend me, manages to turn the holocaust into one man's sentimental journey. It makes a backdrop, a mere story.<br /><br />"Auschwitz' is crude, and not a brilliant piece of cinematography, but the point is made."<br /><br />Quite. Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036103762441216161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-77436944701261655322012-09-12T01:44:39.874+01:002012-09-12T01:44:39.874+01:00I just watched 'Auschwitz'.
I think it he...I just watched 'Auschwitz'.<br /><br />I think it helps to have first seen Kenneth Branagh's 'Conspiracy', about the Wannsee conference, where the Final Solution was decided upon by a bunch of Nazi lawyers: it was just a logistical problem to them, an exercise in human resources management.<br /><br />Uwe Boll's interviews aside, 'Auschwitz' shows the cold 'business-as-usual' that was the aftermath of Wannsee. It is stark and harsh, without any heroism or romanticism.<br /><br />If anything is shocking, it is the ignorance of the students, even after they had been informed. I learned about the Final Solution at school - the term 'Holocaust' (Shoah) was not in such current usage at the time - and have no doubt about what happened under the Nazi regime.<br /><br />I consider both 'Conspiracy' and 'Auschwitz' to be far more useful and informative than 'Schindler's List', which was sensationalist and over-romanticised, and dwelled too much on Schindler (a Nazi businessman with a conscience?!), rather than on the genuine horror of the Final Solution.<br /><br />'Auschwitz' is crude, and not a brilliant piece of cinematography, but the point is made.Atheologiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-12507759949856292652012-01-29T00:42:09.762+00:002012-01-29T00:42:09.762+00:00God help us!God help us!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-29417916610174652142011-04-11T14:48:56.025+01:002011-04-11T14:48:56.025+01:00"But I simply don’t look to art for an object..."But I simply don’t look to art for an objective view of the past, nor present nor future."<br /><br />I said nothing about objectivity, only Boll's film proposes to make a film about the Holocaust that is about the Holocaust - the killing. Not something else. He wants to communicate a sense of the reality of it in terms of the amount that were killed and how they were killed. <br /><br />We do not have actual footage of such a thing and Boll is not trying to create something that can stand for documentary. He is reclaiming ground lost to sentimentality and poignancy in the realm of films which intend to show the horrors of the Holocaust.<br /><br />I was thinking of Schindler's List and The Pianist, which concentrate on side-issues, an individual whose poignant tale is made more poignant by the deaths of millions in the background.<br /><br />I have nothing against films about zombies or a crazy action film using the Holocaust as a jumping point because they have no intention or pretence to telling the story of the Holocaust. There is a difference. It is those films that have that intention yet betray what they are trying to depict that make me uneasy enough to not be able to "not take it seriously"Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036103762441216161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-76394250452653850862011-04-11T12:09:53.157+01:002011-04-11T12:09:53.157+01:00“Well, absolutely. You can do what you like in art...“Well, absolutely. You can do what you like in art but when does art begin to distort the past in people's minds by processing it into a product? Or something palatable?” <br /><br />But I simply don’t look to art for an objective view of the past, nor present nor future. It’s fine if others want to make or receive films that way, but I don’t demand from the medium such things. <br /><br />“I didn't get anything of the sense of place and history and emotion of the Holocaust from other films on the subject. Why make it about the Holocaust at all if you don't want to talk about specifics, about some sort of truth?" <br /><br />Well, of course, it’s hard to judge without knowing to which films you refer. Perhaps you could list two or three examples?” <br /><br />“I prefer them not made into bitesize niceties. Doesn't it make you uneasy in some sense?”<br /><br />Not really. Any time history is exploited through film or downsized for more commercial appeal, it is easy enough for me to simply not take it seriously. I’m more affronted by any bent view of history that isn’t artful enough to make an interesting point or show an interesting or emotionally riveting perspective on its own.Cadethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09378212224451377855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-32497865026601746162011-04-11T11:02:12.503+01:002011-04-11T11:02:12.503+01:00Anonymous,
What don't you get?Anonymous,<br /><br />What don't you get?Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036103762441216161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-25779758863231768872011-04-11T11:01:42.854+01:002011-04-11T11:01:42.854+01:00"I actually prefer Holocaust films that are m..."I actually prefer Holocaust films that are more heavily filtered with the varying tweaks and augmentations natural to self expression, which includes the more heightened realities often found within the envelope of archetypical, even formulaic, genre storytelling."<br /><br />I prefer them not made into bitesize niceties. Doesn't it make you uneasy in some sense? <br /><br />As I say this isn't less of a fictional look at the Holocaust than any other film, only it is one that is more interested in the Holocaust itself and not as a stage for something different.<br /><br />"Judging by both your review and its trailer, Uwe Boll’s Auschwitz seems rather boring"<br /><br />This is a conundrum. I didn't really need it to be engrossing in an entertainment way. I wanted to watch it and carry on watching it and it had an effect on me. It grips you as drama and as a sobering representation and echo of what I have read and seen before.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036103762441216161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-74850459704789873772011-04-11T10:56:11.225+01:002011-04-11T10:56:11.225+01:00Space Cadet,
"But why do we need art for thi...Space Cadet,<br /><br />"But why do we need art for this?<br /><br />Art, film, is not about looking real history in the eye; it’s about seeing through the eyes of another, their interpretation of such events …and further interpreting it yourself"<br /><br />You need art for this because it can do what documentaries and documents and eye witness accounts cannot do. By looking something in the eye I mean, of course, not shying away from showing, as far as one can, the mechanics of the reality. <br /><br />It will always be a view filtered through the artist's eyes. What's important here is not filtering out the most painful aspects. The film is nothing like a documentary.<br /><br />"Contextualizing the Holocaust into genre storytelling is nothing new in the grand scheme of things, and though no doubt horrific, neither does the Holocaust deserve exemption from the way Man has always processed his own past."<br /><br />Well, absolutely. You can do what you like in art but when does art begin to distort the past in people's minds by processing it into a product? Or something palatable? I didn't get anything of the sense of place and history and emotion of the Holocaust from other films on the subject. Why make it about the Holocaust at all if you don't want to talk about specifics, about some sort of truth?Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036103762441216161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-1747635352421527662011-04-11T10:43:53.497+01:002011-04-11T10:43:53.497+01:00...from above...
With art we seek truth not in th......from above...<br /><br />With art we seek truth not in the events as they actually happened, but how these events affect-and-are-expressed-through the human condition. In other words, I think it is possible with film to make profoundly shocking real events of the past without simply Xeroxing them as they were. I actually prefer Holocaust films that are more heavily filtered with the varying tweaks and augmentations natural to self expression, which includes the more heightened realities often found within the envelope of archetypical, even formulaic, genre storytelling. <br /><br />Judging by both your review and its trailer, Uwe Boll’s <i><b>Auschwitz</b></i> seems rather boring, though, admittedly, I’ve yet to see the full film for myself.Cadethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09378212224451377855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-7042946137910433872011-04-11T10:42:12.501+01:002011-04-11T10:42:12.501+01:00It is more exploitative, disingenuous and damaging...It is more exploitative, disingenuous and damaging to turn the massacre of millions into a backdrop for heroes, for comic jaunts, for beknighted individuals, for the saved few. Is it respectful to sanitise? Is it great art to make the Holocaust a context for something else? How can you be witness to something if you refuse to look it in the eye? <br /><br />But why do we need art for this? <br /><br />Art, film, is not about looking real history in the eye; it’s about seeing through the eyes of another, their interpretation of such events …and further interpreting it yourself. I’m all for using film to make history credible, to make it feel visceral, through finer and finer detail, but the closer reduced to a mere documented (or docudramatized) reality, the further shied from self expression, the less interesting film becomes, in my opinion. Contextualizing the Holocaust into genre storytelling is nothing new in the grand scheme of things, and though no doubt horrific, neither does the Holocaust deserve exemption from the way Man has always processed his own past. The very word “history” is sketchy at best: history – <i>his</i> story, as in events told from another’s point of view, always and inherently. It’s inescapable.Cadethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09378212224451377855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-18850685534388362262011-04-11T10:40:07.345+01:002011-04-11T10:40:07.345+01:00I dont get it.I dont get it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-65626128818030646792011-04-11T06:42:03.564+01:002011-04-11T06:42:03.564+01:00Thanks Sam.
"Indeed Stephen, and I'd pos...Thanks Sam.<br /><br />"Indeed Stephen, and I'd pose to suggest that those film that use this device sparingly are the ones that have the most lasting resonance, and employ the most artistry"<br /><br />Yes. Or perhaps those whose manipulation is most invisible too.<br /><br />I haven't seen NIGHT AND FOG yet.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07036103762441216161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035434747786768960.post-87994079063929353362011-04-11T04:21:25.233+01:002011-04-11T04:21:25.233+01:00"Manipulative? All films are. The question is..."Manipulative? All films are. The question is : to what end?"<br /><br />Indeed Stephen, and I'd pose to suggest that those film that use this device sparingly are the ones that have the most lasting resonance, and employ the most artistry. I saw AUSCHWICZ, and found much of it quite powerful, though perhaps not as much as some other Holocaust film (like Resnais' NIGHT AND FOG). I haven't seen UNDER THE VOID yet but apreciate the expert appraisal.Sam Julianonoreply@blogger.com